Re: [-empyre-] the symbolic and the real




I'm not sure I understand you, but the phrase "that the VR is actual" -
actual _what_? This isn't Coleridge's "willing suspension of disbelief" -
instead, as in ordinary physical reality, it's a question of
representations, mediations, and tacit knowledge (Polyani). I'd say that
actual itself has multiple meanings in this context - Alan


On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, saul ostrow wrote:

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> Alan Sondheim wrote:
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> > Again I'd like to argue that there is no difference between vr and pr
> > except for ontology -
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> to me the difference would be one of conventions and of epistemology --
> we have to convince ourselves that the VR is actual rather than merely
> code and on the other hand with pr we often commit ourselves to
> doubting the codes that we use to order it  -m the ontological would
> reduce this to  its sources which would be a merely linguistic rather
> than a phenomenal difference
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